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JIM CROW INTERVIEW - 2002 |
During the post Civil
War era Jim Crow became a code word for a set of laws designed to regulate African
Americans to second class citizenship. Although the mere mention of the name Jim
Crow conjures historical memories of painful days when Southern Blacks were faced with the
difficult task of overcoming racial segregation, its also a time when African Americans
gave the world the priceless gift of music. For it was this dark and terrible era
that musical genres such as jazz, gospel and the blues were born, nurtured and eventually
grew to be the backbone of American popular music.
Now that the strange career of Jim Crow is regulated to the unemployment line and the
South has been transformed from a rural agrarian region to a more urban industrial driven
society a new generation of young men have come forth with a new form of music called
Southern hip hop, which incorporates elements of the great music of the past and melds
them into todays rhythms in order to reflect the times, timbre and sensibilities of
the New South and like their ancestors from the past these young artists have faced
discrimination, only this time the prejudice isnt racial its regional, as many
of the Souths finest hip hop artists are either slept on or simply ignore in favor
of artists from the East or West coast. Leading this new generation of innovative,
yet under-appreciated, musicians/lyricists are three young men, Cutty, MR. MO and Polo,
who have taken on the name Jim Crow in honor of their ancestors.
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Where are you
all from?
MR. MO: Im from Eastside Atlanta. Well, really Im from
all over Atlanta. Im all over. I went to high school on the east side of
Atlanta, but right after high school my parents moved out there to the College
Park/Riverdale area so Im really from all over.
Cutty: Im from Decatur where its greater.
Whats life like growing up in the Dec?
Cutty: It was cool, man. It was cool. You had everything
growing up around you know. You had the great looking chicks. Thats what
the Dec is known for the trunk of women that we have. We really had everything
right down the street they trapping, down the other street they were playing ball at the
basketball court. You know youre typical hood stuff.
How did you all come in contact with one another?
MR. MO: I came in contact with my boys in Jim Crow through the Attic
Crew. We were all niggas you know. Us three just happened to do a record and
we just decided to keep it going. That was back in 1998. But weve been knowing
each other since 92.
Why do you all call yourselves the Attic Crew?
MR. MO: My boy Big Floatie, he had an apartment that his mama had hooked
us all up with. Everybody used to stay there and it was hot as an attic because it
didnt have no air conditioner. So we just started to calling ourselves the
Attic Crew. You know just regular nigga shit.
Now you being from the Dec. how did you hook up with the Attic crew in ATL?
Cutty: Well. Sean Paul from the Youngbloods and MO moved to Decatur and we
ended up kicking for a whole summer. I had met his cousin Pretty Ken so at the time
Pretty Ken and my homeboy Big Floatie got an apartment and they were over there working on
beats. I went over there to hang and I never left. It felt good over there.
It actually felt like it was supposed to happened.
Now a lot of people, for some reason associate the Attic crew with the dungeon
Family
..
MR. MO: Yeah of course certain niggas got family members off in the Dungeon
Family or know certain members whom they are real close with. Like my boy Big
Floatie, his cousin is Cee-lo
.just stuff like that. Yeah, were related
but we aint Dungeon family. Were just potnas and we all down with each
other.
Who were some of your influences rap wise?
Cutty: You know we were listening to that Rakim Paid in Full album, Public
Enemys nation of Millions
.as far as Atlanta Hitman Sammy Sam was a big
influence.
When did Jim Crow come together?
MR. MO: Well we did one song called They Love It, They Want It in 98
and we just kept on going. Everybody was saying man yall need to stay together as a
group.
Cutty: The first experimentation of me, polo and MO on a record would probably be
in 98.
They already had an ideal already. Polo and MO had already laid the song down and
Polo said that they needed a little singing part done so I went in there and laid the
singing part down and everybody said damn, that song jamming. It was Buddy
Lees (aka Noonies) ideal that we form a group. At first we werent
going to be a group, Polo and Mo were together, but I was going to be a solo artist.
Why did you decide to call yourselves Jim Crow?
MR. MO: As you well know that Jim Crow was the laws that they used back in the
days to force Black people to use one water fountain and whites another. It was the
basis of segregation. They were set up to discriminate against Blacks because we
were different from whites. So Jim Crow is a group coming from the South so we
represent that and being from the South, you know we have it twice as hard trying to make
it in this hip hop game. Its like we have to be twice as good as groups from
other regions in order to get noticed. Because, worldwide, people wasnt really
feeling the South back when we started, were just now beginning to get our shine
right now.
Polo: Jim Crow is us, the group, three Black men from the South trying to come up
in the game of hip hop. Its hard for rappers coming from the South to break
into the rap world. Its just hard to get accepted, we still face
discrimination. So Jim Crow the group is symbolic of the struggle Black people went
through in the South during the days of segregation. Thats our vision when we
came up with the name. We understand that we have to keep on striving, we gotta keep
on striving to make it in life.
So you all feel that people in other regions
dont respect you all because you all are from the South, you are being Jim Crowed?
MR. MO: Exactly. But it aint just about rap; everybody is really Jim
Crowed if you really think about it. I mean everybody that has been through a
struggle, everybody that has been denied, everybody that has overcome some boundaries are
Jim Crow.
So its
not just a regional or racial thing?
MR. MO: Naw, not at all.
Polo: Jim Crow still exist today only this time its not just a
racial thing. Nowadays, anybody that dares to be different
.like walking into a
nice club wearing tennis shoes and baggie jeans or dressing different from other people
brings discrimination to you then, guess what, youre Jim Crow. If you really
look at everybody jumps Jim Crow at some point in their life.
Okay, lets talk a little bit about you alls recording career. At one
point you all were on Epic, how did that happened?
MR. MO: Yeah. The guys we were signed to had a deal going on at
epic and we were signed through them so it was Noontime Epic.
What happened that made you all part ways with Epic?
MR. MO: They basically was trying to jump on the Southern wave and they
didnt really know how to promote no Southern record so we got caught up into the
whole politics of that. We couldve have stayed with Epic. In fact, they
wanted us to stay, but we just decided to get off.
Was it frustrating to have a critically acclaimed album and be on a record label that
didnt know how to promote it properly?
MR. MO: Yeah, it was frustrating. We werent getting the help
that we deserve to help us turn all our hard work into a hit. It was hard, but we
just had to suck it up.
Why did you all decide to go the independent route
instead of going with another label?
MR. MO: Well, we had some offers to sign with other labels. We
decided to form our own label called Scare Crow Music and partner up with Noonie one of
the partners in Noontime and drop our album Right Quick independent to see what we could
do.
Right Quick like was a classic. We were working on an independent budget so we
couldnt do everything that we wanted to do with it, but it got its shine. It
did what it was supposed to do right quick.
So are you all re-releasing the album or will this new one be all new material?
MR. MO: Well, were grabbing a couple of songs off the independent album.
Were doing a couple of new records and were taking some other records
from when we had started recording another album. Before we had started recording for
Interscope we had started doing a new record. We basically are putting all of those
records together and making a new record for Interscope.
So whats the name of this brand new album?
MR. MO: Its self title Jim Crow. We were going to call it Bird Shit,
but it might be subject to change.
I heard that this new album is something totally different from whats out there.
I heard that its not like anything that youll ever hear from a Southern
group
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How would you describe the album?
MR. MO: With this album were going back to the Crows nest days.
Really its a lot of street records on there. Its a lot of fun
records on there, theres a lot of records that will make you feel good.
Its not really any dark and gloomy records on the album.
Cutty: You know what, that exactly what Jimmy Irvine said when he heard it.
He said this doesnt sound like a Southern group to me. He said,
realistically you all are wide open. You all can go in any direction and thats what
let me know that we needed to go with Interscope because he was paying attention to our
music instead of just trying to sign us he was actually listening to us.
Polo: The one thing that we try to do is do something different every time.
Of course were not going to go too far left because we always know what the
people want to hear, at the same time, we always want to give you something that is going
to keep you on your toes. This album right here is a little like our old album.
Its a dab of that in there, but were moving on as well. What
youre going hear is some head-bangers. I mean the beats are hard.
Weve definitely stepped it up on the production. Weve always had great
production but these beats are even harder than the last ones. Its not typical
of a rap album period. What we do is music. What we do is melodic, its
bluesy, its funk, its soul its all of that.
I understand you all did a remix of Holla at a Playa is that true?
MR. MO: Yeah, we put Petey Pablo on there. Were also doing a song
with Bubba Sparxx called Boi Look.
Who are some of the producers on the album?
MR. MO: Jazze Pha worked on it. Rob McDowell and David Banner and we got a new
guy named Sam I Am. Plus we are going to get a track from Timberland.
We want people to know that this album here is about to be a classic. Interscope
wouldnt sign us if we were on some bullshit. |
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Charlie Braxton © Down-South.com |
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